eric cantor was right to the extent that what john boehner was articulating was a new position. that is to say, we're putting revenue on the table, actual tax increases in the short term. whether or not you're talking about rates or loopholes, if you get money from the same people, there's no particular economic or fairness difference -- >> but, john, with the greatest respect, wasn't that what mitt romney suggested for a year on the campaign trail? >> reporter: no, because mitt romney was not -- he was talking about closing loopholes but not about raising revenue. he was proposing a revenue neutral tax reform that would actually lower the rates. what boehner is talking about is actually closing some loopholes in a way that raises money beyond what the government's going to get, and, again, i emphasize not just from what the they call dynamic scoring but actual near-term tax increases, and i think that is a concussion to the degree they follow through on it and can get the votes in the house. >> john harwood there being very positive. let's hope so, john. thanks so much. >> you